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Kamaru Usman and Belal Muhammad had an unseen clash during an attempted podcast appearance that still has not seen the light of day. But, Henry Cejudo has shined a certain level of light on the now-infamous interaction.
Cejudo and Usman are co-hosts of the Pound 4 Pound podcast with the former making claims that the podcast was arranged by manager Ali Abdelaziz who manages all three of the high-profile fighters.
Appearing on the JAXXON PODCAST with a clip subsequently posted to the X account @RedCorner_MMA, Cejudo touched on the fact that there was already some drama heading into this situation and claimed he felt like he had to play the role of mediator.
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When expounding upon what happened between Usman and Muhammad in this now tumultuous scenario, Cejudo said:
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"I'll be honest, probably Kamaru started it, but I could see why. The whole production crew started coming in. They had to detain both of them. There were about 8 people - four were trying to get on Belal. Hands were thrown, slaps were given."
Check out Henry Cejudo discussing the unseen Kamaru Usman and Belal Muhammad scrap below (via @RedCorner_MMA):
Kamaru Usman explains his dislike for Belal Muhammad
While Kamaru Usman prepares for his in-cage return against ufc-tampa-bout-dark-horse-joaquin-buckley" target="_blank" rel="noopener noreferrer" data-is-sponsored="false">Joaquin Buckley on June 14, he took time recently to explain his distaste for Belal Muhammad. During an interview with ESPN, Usman said:
"Belal's a guy that I never really - He was always around and I never really paid attention to because I was doing what I needed to do. I was always fighting the next guy up, the next guy up. I didn't really pay attention to Belal."
"Now that I'm forced to actually look at Belal, he's not bad," he added. "He's just been good everywhere... I think once I was forced to pay attention to him, I started to kind of see the antics that goes on outside of the cage. And I was never that guy... He craves that attention."
Check out Kamaru Usman's comments below (16:43):
