From Manchester City's brilliance to Chelsea's woes, 5 talking points from Premier League Gameweek 8

Manchester City v Stoke City - Premier League
Manchester City shine, Manchester United bore and Arsenal well Arsenal were Arsenal

#3 Arsene Wenger's weak Arsenal lose again

Arsenal v Doncaster Rovers - Carabao Cup Third Round
Arsene Wenger's Arsenal are now nine points off leaders City and have it all to do

Watford left it late in their injury time 2-1 win over the Gunners to prompt more questions over the manager, Arsene Wenger. The players looked lost and bewildered come the final whistle despite having a 1-0 lead. Arsenal are yet to record an away win and find themselves nine points off leaders City.

Club legend Martin Keown has since hit out at the Arsenal player's lack of determination and belief. Speaking in his London Evening Standard column he said: “It seriously makes me look at the DNA of the Arsenal players and in the recruitment, there needs to be more of a steeliness and a determination.”

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